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folder icon   01-22-2010, 12:39 AM
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Legal Magazines

I've read that a lot of people are using the magazine to add to the us parts count. I have a few question for those of you that are. Do you own any non US magazines or magazines that don't have the US floor plate of follower?

Let me know what you think of the following scenario.

The SS kicks down your doors.
Takes you.
Takes your wallet.
But when An SS Officer grabs your 922r compliant rifle instead of your tapco mag He grabs a Chinese magazine that you got a great deal on.

Now, with no paddle how do you swim out of S-creak?

Also what if some one owns a legal (pre-ban) for a lack of a better word foreign built rifle and one day picked up a US made magazine. Is this now considered assembly?

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I have some detachable magazines that are imported and some that are US-made. Is this a problem?

With reference to using magazines for compliance purposes, the following quote was taken from an ATF letter posted on the Soupbowl Enterprises web site: “If the modified rifle were possessed with an imported magazine…a violation of § 922(r) would occur.”

ATF has left us to try and figure out what “possessed with” means. It would be safe to assume that you should convert all of the magazines you carry around with the rifle. But, given the ambiguity, a person should seriously consider converting all their magazines to be compliant if they intend magazines as compliance parts.


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But when An SS Officer grabs your 922r compliant rifle instead of your tapco mag He grabs a Chinese magazine that you got a great deal on.

Now, with no paddle how do you swim out of S-creak?

Also what if some one owns a legal (pre-ban) for a lack of a better word foreign built rifle and one day picked up a US made magazine. Is this now considered assembly?

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Lets not scare this new member away!!

Welcome from the forum!!!! DARLINKKKK!!!!!

Thare are no dumb questions???

A made in the US follower counts as one part. {I think}

A made in the US mag floor plate counts as one part. (I think)

The rest of the magg parts I am not sure. Also you replace parts on maggs that have been obtained legally. ALLWAYS checkh loco local laws - don't take as legal advice. {see signature beloew}

Magg type and catch release type that are legal differ from state to state. Also when you got the magg (example before 1999 or 1989 or ?????)

Best place to research such info is at your local FFL or internett sight say CALGUNS or sight for your area or shooting range.

I would look around or go to a range and ask questions what is cool. LOOK arround why not. Allways be leeeerry of people who take toooo much interest or ask questions that a prosecuting DA would ASK.

Is that FA?
Do you need a special lincenses for that?
I thought was illegal??
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There is a letter from the ATF regarding 922r issues out there that came out earlier this year, that more or less says if you bought your rifle in a given config(so long as nfa doesn't apply) you aren't considered illegal by the batf.

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There is a letter from the ATF regarding 922r issues out there that came out earlier this year, that more or less says if you bought your rifle in a given config(so long as nfa doesn't apply) you aren't considered illegal by the batf.
They also consider "inserting a magazine" to be "assembling", so you can have your non-922r compliant firearm and be legal, all the way 'til you get to the range. . .

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There is a letter from the ATF regarding 922r issues

Do you have a link.

Larry

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Okay,
Scenario (b):
You are out in the back 40 shooting and brought along a couple / three of your homebrew AKs .
You are counting on some of your mags to complete your parts count for 922r compliance on ONE of your AK rifles and plan to use them as such.
In your pouch you have mixed mags clearly marked which ones are and are not equipped with US follower and floorplate and plan to use them accordingly.

By this statement below it looks like one would be screwed just having the standard imported (non complient) mags with you .(were possessed with)

If the modified rifle were possessed with an imported magazine…a violation of § 922(r) would occur.”

(1)Am I just not getting it?

(2)Does this letter that was supposed to come out earlier this year ammend anything?

(3) Should I get a trap to get the peskey raccoons out of my attic or just emply a 30 round mag up there and then call a roofer?

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(1)Am I just not getting it?


I think you're getting it just fine.
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(2)Does this letter that was supposed to come out earlier this year ammend anything?


Good question . . . that's why I asked to see a link to the letter so I could read the whole thing myself.
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(3) Should I get a trap to get the peskey raccoons out of my attic or just emply a 30 round mag up there and then call a roofer?


I think you already know the answer to that one

Larry

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u.s. mags are SHIT.
BTW, the black zepplins are grounded due to budget cuts.

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They also consider "inserting a magazine" to be "assembling", so you can have your non-922r compliant firearm and be legal, all the way 'til you get to the range. . .

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