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Old 04-15-2018, 05:28 PM   #36
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I bet from now on that guy thoroughly checks a firearm before accepting it for x-fer.

Always inspect your firearm before accepting it.

Now back to OP. Buds was known to do this back when CTD jacked their prices sky high. Everyone swore off CTD, but it never gained traction in the news of the day that Buds had pulled all their inventory and was auctioning it off to the highest bidder on GB. If you ask me, this is worse than what CTD did because they tried to conceal it.

Personally, my wallet has no moral compass. If I am shopping a gun and CTD or Buds beats everyone on price, then I buy from the lowest bidder. I can barely afford the toys much less making a paid political statement to go along with them.
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Old 04-15-2018, 05:32 PM   #37
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My moral compass doesn't point toward companies that I know are crappy. I skip right over the search results and don't open their links.

Really simple and easy.
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Old 04-15-2018, 07:08 PM   #38
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I don't understand why people are willing to work with shitty outfits like this one, when there are plenty of good ones out there.
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Old 04-15-2018, 07:10 PM   #39
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I can personally attest to this, twice actually. I had a Ruger Blackhawk show up in used condition. It wasn’t heavily used, but it clearly had a few rounds down the pipe and the moving parts were showing wear from general handling. I still accepted the transfer, because truth be told... it was still a good deal in the condition it was received. I have also refused a transfer from them. I once ordered a Heritage arms revolver with the interchangeable 22 lr/mag cylinders. It came without the mag cylinder and also in clearly used condition. This time I refused it. The shop owner told me he wouldn’t be accepting any more orders from Buds. Apparently he’s had other issues with them, but didn’t get into the particulars. Buds response was that the guns are test fired at the factory. That doesn’t explain why my (supposedly brand new) gun looks like some shitbag was fanning the action while playing gunslanger in the mirror for a few weeks before putting back out for sale.
I think manufacturers fire no more than 10 rounds and in most cases, less. So it shouldn’t show much if any wear.

I’ve never had any issues with anything I’ve gotten from buds. My LWRC has some light scratches on the handguard, but for what I paid that was more than acceptable. I got an iC SPR for $1800. Looked unforced inside.

Got my Browning Maxus Ultimate there, a 629 4”, an 11-87 20ga, and a H&K USP. Everything was perfect. Shipped quick, etc...

Although I’ve heard of many shops not taking their transfers due to rejections and such. So I 100% believe your story. Just hasn’t been the case in my limited dealings with them...

There are better places to buy! My local dealers have all the same prices, I just have to pay sales tax which can suck on $2k items! But such is the American thing to do!!!
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Old 04-15-2018, 07:33 PM   #40
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Why exactly do people use Bud's in 2018? MUCH better options out there!!!
I've heard tell of this happening more than once but it's not occurred to me.... I use Buds because of the easy and free layaway.. A 90 layaway is valuable for those who don't knock down big bucks.. Who else has 90 day layaways with as large a selection ?
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:12 PM   #41
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Buds charges CC fee, so they are automatically shit and advertise cash prices to get clicks. They also manipulate pricing depending on clicks, so they'll list a fake cash price to generate clicks and when it's spread by others or searched for online the price on the domain will be higher.

Basically they are scum. FFL's around here actually will charge more for transfers from Buds they are so bad hah.
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:23 AM   #42
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I put a gun on layaway at their Uncle Lee's Store(they bought them out when they closed) ...when I went to pay it off and pick up they had signs around the store that said certain things couldn't be put on layaway..or it was at their discretion or something similar....
To me it said..".hey if we see we messed up and priced it too low and could get more money out of someone else...we.will"...before I talked to someone I wondered if I was going to have a Buds Gunshop horror story but I paid it off and everything went off without a hitch...

It's a shame the place does these stupid things but unless people really stop buying from them it won't stop....
And if theirs one horror story to every 25 transactions....then that's 24 more people that will probably go back and then tell their friends they are GTG.....
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Buds charges CC fee, so they are automatically shit and advertise cash prices to get clicks. They also manipulate pricing depending on clicks, so they'll list a fake cash price to generate clicks and when it's spread by others or searched for online the price on the domain will be higher.

Basically they are scum. FFL's around here actually will charge more for transfers from Buds they are so bad hah.
Every vendor is charging you CC fees. Most of them simply charge CC fees for all customers whether they pay with a card or not.

Buds does people a service by giving the option to NOT pay a CC fee...and you criticize them for it?
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:17 PM   #44
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My moral compass doesn't point toward companies that I know are crappy. I skip right over the search results and don't open their links.

Really simple and easy.
Same with me I skip right over any Duds links that show up when searching for deals.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:40 PM   #45
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Same with me I skip right over any Duds links that show up when searching for deals.
And miss most of the "deals" in the skip.

Last fall I ordered a Beretta 9mm from CTD for $399 that I've never seen for less than $500 (currently $540). That's a pistol that I wouldn't own today if I had skipped over them because they charged you (or someone else, cause I didn't pay their high prices) a couple hundred extra $ after Sandy Hook, so what?

Most every online dealer immediately auctioned off their entire inventory on GB during that same time. So, you don't really know who screwed you and who didn't.
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And miss most of the "deals" in the skip.

Last fall I ordered a Beretta 9mm from CTD for $399 that I've never seen for less than $500 (currently $540). That's a pistol that I wouldn't own today if I had skipped over them because they charged you (or someone else, cause I didn't pay their high prices) a couple hundred extra $ after Sandy Hook, so what?

Most every online dealer immediately auctioned off their entire inventory on GB during that same time. So, you don't really know who screwed you and who didn't.
Good to know you'll sell out cheap.

The only REAL vote you get is with your money. Your wallet, your decisions, but there's a reason I won't shop at certain places even if it means I'm paying more.
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:21 PM   #47
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Good to know you'll sell out cheap.

The only REAL vote you get is with your money. Your wallet, your decisions, but there's a reason I won't shop at certain places even if it means I'm paying more.
When you like expensive stuff and have limited funding, you do what you have to (or I do anyway).

Anything I buy that's not needed right now, I shop around and I purchase from the lowest seller. It's how I roll. You choose to not support certain sellers due to one thing or another. Good on you. You say I'm a sell out and I say a fool and his money are soon parted...
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When you like expensive stuff and have limited funding, you do what you have to (or I do anyway).

Anything I buy that's not needed right now, I shop around and I purchase from the lowest seller. It's how I roll. You choose to not support certain sellers due to one thing or another. Good on you. You say I'm a sell out and I say a fool and his money are soon parted...
It’s not like buds is anti firearm...

And they aren’t even close to the worst company to profiteer off our “panics”.

They offer great prices on certain firearms helping get them into the hands of gun owners. They’re probably the biggest online retailer now, if not close to it. So they’re bound to have some structural problems. The may need to revamp their infrastructure to handle orders and post accurate product pictures and descriptions...

I feel like maybe some employees “joy ride” firearms at times! That needs to go too.
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When you like expensive stuff and have limited funding, you do what you have to (or I do anyway).

Anything I buy that's not needed right now, I shop around and I purchase from the lowest seller. It's how I roll. You choose to not support certain sellers due to one thing or another. Good on you. You say I'm a sell out and I say a fool and his money are soon parted...
They're full of shit! If they found a gun they wanted listed on CTD, Buds, or some other site they supposedly hate at a steal of a price that way cheaper than the competition, they'd buy in a heart... Don't believe their bs...

I buy from the lowest bidder myself, and I'm not ashamed am going to apologize for keeping as much of my money in my pocket as I possibly can.
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I've heard tell of this happening more than once but it's not occurred to me.... I use Buds because of the easy and free layaway.. A 90 layaway is valuable for those who don't knock down big bucks.. Who else has 90 day layaways with as large a selection ?
K-Var, Hyatt Guns, and Whittaker Guns all do 90 days. There are others out there.
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I buy from the lowest bidder myself, and I'm not ashamed am going to apologize for keeping as much of my money in my pocket as I possibly can.
Same, the gun search engines make it easy to do a search for the bottom, I've had nothing but good experiences with the drop shippers on purchases of guns as well, interesting business model, But the price usually beats traditional dealers= good for my wallet.
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Hey man, it's your rabbit...

But it's hilarious to see the "how do shitty companies that lie to their customers stay in business?!" get followed by "hey man, if it saves me $5 I'll buy direct from Pelosi!"
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Thanks for posting this, I have not visited CTD page since the sandy hook order cancel fiasco. Haven't dealt with Buds because of the price fluctuation on clicks, now they are OFF the list. Hope they google this thread and see it. Customer service and being stand-up for your pricing is key. Good god, if you can't honor pricing on your electronic gun shop website, you truly can't run your business..
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