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Old 01-15-2019, 10:36 AM   #36
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Keep in mind that the ammo factories in Ukraine that could produce 5.45 ammo were blown up during the Ukraine/Russian conflict.

It ain't gonna be cheap to start from scratch. And even if they did start producing 5.45, I'd be surprised if they could even produce a 10th of what their military required.

Pipe dream? Maybe. Sure would be nice to have alternatives to Russian supplied 5.45 though!
you are almost on the right path.

Since the 2014 coup ukies have lost the biggest ammo plant that Soviets built in Lugansk because of the war that west declared on them.

ukies have not produced anything worth of shit in the last 3 years. Thats why the miserably lost the war. That and piss poor tactics.

Arseniy Avakov, the clown AKA prime minister is no longer in control of anything because of power struggle between him and current self-proclaimed president Poroshenko, who was able to push Avakov out.

you will never see any of this ammo ever in the US. Like Tango stated above, this is a drop in a bucket for the current ukro military that cannot even keep up with the demand to their own army.

this was nothing but a publicity stunt.

elections are around the corner and the power struggle between Poroshenko and Yulia Timoshenko is on. Poroshenko has approval rating of less that 10%. Zelenskiy is another contender backed by jewish oligarch by the name of Igor Kolomoskiy, who lost nearly all his wealth back in 2014 . He has been looking for revenge for quite some time. The ammo plant and the land was in his name before the coup. Just like the entire auctions of SperBank, he lost it all to Poroshenko.

will be interesting what happens in that 3rd world shithole.
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Old 01-15-2019, 01:32 PM   #37
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If they haven't started producing 5.45 yet, then how do we know what their production capacity is going to be?
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Old 01-15-2019, 04:31 PM   #38
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you are almost on the right path.

Since the 2014 coup ukies have lost the biggest ammo plant that Soviets built in Lugansk because of the war that west declared on them.

ukies have not produced anything worth of shit in the last 3 years. Thats why the miserably lost the war. That and piss poor tactics.

Arseniy Avakov, the clown AKA prime minister is no longer in control of anything because of power struggle between him and current self-proclaimed president Poroshenko, who was able to push Avakov out.

you will never see any of this ammo ever in the US. Like Tango stated above, this is a drop in a bucket for the current ukro military that cannot even keep up with the demand to their own army.

this was nothing but a publicity stunt.

elections are around the corner and the power struggle between Poroshenko and Yulia Timoshenko is on. Poroshenko has approval rating of less that 10%. Zelenskiy is another contender backed by jewish oligarch by the name of Igor Kolomoskiy, who lost nearly all his wealth back in 2014 . He has been looking for revenge for quite some time. The ammo plant and the land was in his name before the coup. Just like the entire auctions of SperBank, he lost it all to Poroshenko.

will be interesting what happens in that 3rd world shithole.
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Don't worry, I see us giving the proud tough people of Ukraine enough in military aid to build a couple ammo plants.
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Old 01-15-2019, 04:33 PM   #39
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If they haven't started producing 5.45 yet, then how do we know what their production capacity is going to be?
A good question too, is where are they getting there 5.45 from now for the war effort and how is that affecting what we see here?

Maybe if the Russians left them alone, we would see more and cheaper 5.45.
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:28 PM   #40
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:54 AM   #41
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Don't worry, I see us giving the proud tough people of Ukraine enough in military aid to build a couple ammo plants.
I sure hope not. Perhaps some other world power will pick up the bill?

Me... I'm all tapped out. I'm sick and tired of Uncle Sugar stealing 1/3rd of my paycheck and flying jumbo jets full of cash to pay off bribes, buy influence and pay hush money, all the while telling me I need to open my border and let in the third world locusts that are invading my once great country, then demanding that I sweat and bleed more so they can sit on their asses and eat steak and lobster.

Fuck the current Ukrainian administration. They jumped in bed with the Obama administration: Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, John Kerry and especially that toady Victoria Nuland.

They bought it. Now they get to eat it.
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Old 01-16-2019, 01:07 PM   #42
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I'd rather S&B or PPU just make the damn cartridge already. Someday!
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Old 01-16-2019, 02:16 PM   #43
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That certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings, but right now neither company's even producing a 6.5 Grendel (at least for the commercial market - I'm sure PPU's happy to supply the Serbian government as much 6.5 as that government wants).
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:10 PM   #44
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Time for a Go Fund Me 5.45 Venture......
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